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Cliff Hucker |
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November 07, 2010 05:05:57am |
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TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
I have always loved, loved, loved this show. Since back in the cassette days this one has been one of my all-time favorites. What's not to love? A high-energy well executed performance from a jammy sweet-spot period in the year. Excellent pre-FM sound quality (very minor keyboard distortion). And a thrilling set-list that includes a one-timer (Hideaway), a Dark Star-> Other One combo (one of only three during 1971), and what might be the best ever performance of NFA-> GDTRFB-> NFA...
11/7/71 Harding Theater - San Francisco
Truckin', Brown Eyed Women, Beat It On Down The Line, Hideaway, Sugaree, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Cumberland Blues, El Paso, Big Railroad Blues, Comes A Time, Mexicali Blues, One More Saturday Night
Ramble On Rose, Me And Bobby McGee, Loser, Sugar Magnolia, Dark Star-> Drums-> The Other One-> Me & My Uncle-> The Other One, Deal, Brokedown Palace, Playin' In The Band, Casey Jones, Not Fade Away-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> Not Fade Away, E: Johnny B. Goode, E: Uncle John's Band
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-11-07.sbd.lai.2580.shnf
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luvvdubz73 |
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November 07, 2010 05:54:54am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
..excellent... I LOVE TDIH!
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midnightcarousel |
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November 07, 2010 07:20:39am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
I second you on this being maybe the best NFA > GDTRFB > NFA.
Other Ones from 1971 are a different breed than what came before or after. They're sleek, streamlined, but totally wild and frightening.
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dead-head_Monte |
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November 07, 2010 08:46:04am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
I definitely agree, this show is fantastic. During the intro, Jer says, "
If you're sitting at home next to your radio, you're hearing the music faster than you are if you're in the hall. That's an interesting but true..." Bob says, "
We won't bore you with lengthy explanations of this phenomenon."
this theory explainedI just noticed Bobby hugely blows the Sugar Magnolia lyrics. At the 01:30 point, Garcia finishes his solo in the first break. Instead of correctly singing these lyrics...
She comes skimmin' through rays of violet, she can wade in a drop of dew,
She don't come and I don't follow, waits backstage while I sing to you.
Well, she can dance a Cajun rhythm, jump like a willys in four wheel drive.
She's a summer love for spring, fall and winter. She can make happy any man alive....Weir starts singing these 2 verses backwards, then realizes it, and then there's nothing.
"she can dance... rays of violet..." lmao... I can imagine Phil whispering the lyrics in his ear.
I thought 1973 was their year for lyrics dysfunctionality. Were they screwing up lyrics just as badly in 1971?
This post was modified by dead-head_Monte on 2010-11-07 16:46:04
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Lightz Aglow |
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November 07, 2010 09:26:15am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
What a wonderful show! Thanks for recommending it. I also heard that lyrics flub in SM. At least Bobby apologizes. Once he somewhat recovers, he goes "sorry about that". Funny and seriously energetic at the same time.
This is my first post, yes. Lots of cool stuff here, folks. Will come back when time permits.
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elbow1126 |
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November 08, 2010 05:18:03am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
Welcome Aboard!! Hope you can stop by and add to our somewhat dysfunctional but often enlightening community.
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William Tell |
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November 07, 2010 01:38:12pm |
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Re: Sorry for the repeat...redundancy increases with age |
Ha! I wrote my reply, Monte, ref'ing you of course, before seeing you provided this!
Thx for the addt'l links and such...
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elbow1126 |
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November 07, 2010 07:48:07am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
Best NFA>GDTRFB>NFA? An outstanding one for sure, especially given that Bobby breaks three strings. However I think this one is a warm-up for the following week in Austin. To me 11-15-71 is by far and away the best NFA>GDTRFB>NFA that I have ever heard. Love the china cat tease in the jam. Bobby starts it and Jerry picks it up and runs with it. A great demonstration of how in tune these guys could be with each other and the moment.
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Cliff Hucker |
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November 07, 2010 08:08:04am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
I think I may like 10/31/71 best of all?
But to borrow a phrase from LIA, there are probably twenty top-ten performances of NFA> GDTRFB> NFA...
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snow_and_rain |
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November 07, 2010 08:32:00am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
Yes, very hard to choose a top version from '71 with so many outstanding renditions to choose from. 10/31 has always been one of my favorites, but this one is no slouch of course.
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light into ashes |
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November 07, 2010 11:30:57am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
I think 10/31/71 is my favorite, along with 11/15/71. 11/15 for obvious reasons; but Jerry's soloing in 10/31 is just unmatched - 11/7 is pretty similar but, to me, not quite as good.
Fall '71 was the best time for this combo - it improved immensely from spring '71 (when they didn't jam out NFA very much). And by '72, strangely enough, NFAs did not usually get the big-jam treatment as much as they had before. (Although I have an especial soft spot for 11/24/72, which is the best version of this combo from '72...aside from 7/16 and 8/22, which have Hey Bo Diddley added.)
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clementinescaboose |
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November 08, 2010 12:14:55am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
one of the jammiest NFA's of '72 i can think of (which i can guess you're well aware of too) is the spectacular version from the legendary 5/26 show. not ultra-long or anything but tons of stuff to get your behind movin'. i especially like how jerry and keith really lock in on this one particularly nasty riff around 4:00 or so...it's sweet!
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clementinescaboose |
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November 08, 2010 12:25:25am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
elbow, the jam that follows china cat on 11/15 has got to be some of the craziest, jazziest NFA jamming ever! weird shit
This post was modified by clementinescaboose on 2010-11-08 08:25:25
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elbow1126 |
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November 08, 2010 05:11:11am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
I think that is why it is my favorite one. I agree with LiA that the Jerry solo in 10-31-71 can't be beat and i couldn't fault anyone for saying it is their favorite. I just think the jamming in this one is so much more interesting.
(btw am i the only who now hears the robot voice from Cliff's movies whenever i type the date of a grateful dead show?)
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stratocaster |
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November 07, 2010 08:29:45am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
glad you posted this, was planning on playing it today...I concur in waves about the NFA GDTRFB medley...to note, there are some truly great versions of that from this time period, probably the peak performances...i believe there is 10-31, 11-15 and 12-14 of particular note...rest of the 11-07 show is great...top five on the year
This post was modified by stratocaster on 2010-11-07 16:29:45
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snori |
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November 08, 2010 02:18:29pm |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
Thanks for that link Micah. I had the great fortune to see Freddie in London in the mid '70s. The Texas Cannonball - he really made the Roundhouse shake. How's this for the definitive version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AnGcB7MHA
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BVD |
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November 07, 2010 10:53:12am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
Wonderful,great show! It's in my regular rotation. That freakin' D J is so mellow. A month later at The Felt Forum I finally got on the bus.
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William Tell |
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November 07, 2010 01:26:54pm |
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Re: Best Banter? |
I think this has to rank up there...all the cmts about the show above cover that aspect--the greatness of the night, and for those that have only been around here for a yr or so, you've probably missed the many discussions of "banter" (yes, EARLY era IS better; there is more of it, venues were smaller, blah, blah, blah). Bottom line? THIS show has plenty of it...and it's good; techno glitches in this case led to extended between song breaks and, so different from even a few short yrs later when I was seeing them, the boys filled in much of it with chit-chat.
How can you argue with Jerry's opening on the physics of sound propagation, hall vs broadcast, and though Bob decided against boring us with lengthy explanations of this phenomenon, OUR own DHMonte did (no offense, Monte!), and we decided that in fact Jerry had this "right" (though one can probably assume that BEAR--if present; LiA?--or some other techno geek of the Day clued him to this interesting acoustic factoid).
I will only second those, like CLIFF, as all of us 70s era tape traders felt at that time, that this indeed was THE show to have from fall, 71, and along with the famed 7-2 and 8-6, made a trio of "must haves" from 1971 that one and all ranted and raved about long before DPs and all the rest that became available so many yrs later.
Those were indeed the days.
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scottyb |
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November 07, 2010 07:15:48pm |
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Re: Best Banter? |
love it when the boys ramble...7-26-72 and the fill east shows from 2-70 are my favorites.
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leftwinger57 |
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November 08, 2010 06:27:27am |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
Cliff ,this time you definately have a winner all the way through. Generally I'll find fault w/ something about a show, not this one it's a keeper.If you could tell me where the Harding Theater was in S.F.I'v been to the Orphium, Fox/Warfield,Civic center but I've never remembering even hearing aboutthis place. I got into town late73.
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leftwinger57 |
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November 08, 2010 12:54:26pm |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
WILL,Thanks alot but because I lived on Divisidero close to Market this would have been way further south .A cross street would complete this query. Thanks again,didn't think of wiki.....LW
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johnnyonthespot |
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November 08, 2010 03:05:31pm |
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Re: TDIH - Harding Theater (1971) |
I've always LOVED this show too. I love everything about it from start to finish. In fact I dont think I EVER skip a song on this one. And listen to PHIL's tone. Man it's perfect
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